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the nation now just hours from going over the fiscal cliff after lawmakers fail to reach a deal over the weekend. could a last-minute push from vice president joe biden get something done before your taxes go up? >>> and oh, baby. kanye wecakanye west surprises y announcing his girlfriend, kim kardashian, is pregnant with their first child. how her family is reacting to the news "today," monday, december 31st, 2012. >> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today" with matt lauer and savannah guthrie live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> welcome to "today" on a very busy monday morning. i'm willie geist. >> and i'm erica hill. matt and savannah have the morning off. >>> we'll have the latest on secretary of state clinton's condition in a live report straight ahead. it is the last day of 2012. >> you and i are both in the same situation with young children. >>> people filing into times square in new york city. it is the world's biggest party. of course, security will be extremely tight. we'll check in on celebrations there and around the world. >> then we'll catch up with three wom
the nation now just hours from going over the fiscal cliff after lawmakers fail to reach a deal over the weekend. could a last-minute push from vice president joe biden get something done before your taxes go up? >>> and oh, baby. kanye wecakanye west surprises y announcing his girlfriend, kim kardashian, is pregnant with their first child. how her family is reacting to the news "today," monday, december 31st, 2012. >> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today"...
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cliff diminishes. >> i don't think there's going to be a grand bargain before the end of the year. there is hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't extend expiring tax cuts in just days, middle income owners will owe uncle sam about $2,000 extra a year. retailers will cut back in automotive, apparel and entertainment. >> once people begin to pull back on that, the effect will be dramatic. >> reporter: the national retailers association said retailer its support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downward turn intensifies. for those, the wait is excruciating. president obama visited troops in hawaii over christmas after a frustrating week on capitol hill. he and speaker john boehner about $100 billion. >> the president was $200 billion in revenues. speaker boehner $100 billion in spending cuts. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead. six days left. and lawmakers are now saying they will likely address tax reforms and spending cuts in the new year when the debt ceiling debate gets going. reporting live in washington. i'm danielle leigh. richard, back to you. >> danielle, t
cliff diminishes. >> i don't think there's going to be a grand bargain before the end of the year. there is hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't extend expiring tax cuts in just days, middle income owners will owe uncle sam about $2,000 extra a year. retailers will cut back in automotive, apparel and entertainment. >> once people begin to pull back on that, the effect will be dramatic. >> reporter: the national retailers association said retailer its...
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we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have got to meet this deny. now what we're hearing, it is not that bad, we have time. >> what jessica said about the term paper, getting it done in time. you know what happens if you don't get it done in time? you get an f. and a lot of american voters are going to say an "f" to all the politicians if they don't get it done. look, i don't think it would be the end of the world if we go off the fiscal cliff. and it think it would be resolved in the weeks ahead. but this is kind of a black eye for the political system. here we are, two or three days ahead from the start of the year. without any american business investor, or worker, this just is not a very good way to run a country. and it is almost like banana republic politics. >> my dad used to say, no way to run a railroad. or government. let's talk about a couple of things, the whole idea that tax rates on everyone will go up. does the irs or the treasury department have the ability to sort of say look, here is some guidance? keep withholding where it is? >>
we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have got to meet this deny. now what we're hearing, it is not that bad, we have time. >> what jessica said about the term paper, getting it done in time. you know what happens if you don't get it done in time? you get an f. and a lot of american voters are going to say an "f" to all the politicians if they don't get it done. look, i don't think it would be the end of the world if we go off the fiscal cliff. and it think it would be resolved...
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. ♪ >>> back now at 7:40 as the nation watches to see what happens with the fiscal cliff, there's another important piece of legislation that needs attention. if nothing is done about it, the cost of milk could go sky high. here's nbc's stephanie gosk. >> reporter: the dairy industry is calling it the milk cliff. just like tax rates, if congress doesn't approve a farm bill by january 1st, the price of milk could go up. way up. right now an average gallon costs $3.65. it could soar to between $6 and $8. mara has three little kids. that means a lot of milk. >> you have to have it for young kids. it helps them grow. so it's hard when it gets that expensive. >> reporter: for many families, milk is a staple they can't cut back on. >> a lot of families that are tight, incomewise, they don't want to buy milk at $7, $8. >> reporter: it's not just milk prices. all dairy products would be affected. imagine if wisconsin cheddar cost more than imported french brie. what would that mean for the average grilled cheese? one part of the complicated farm bill controls the dairy market. without it, pricing
. ♪ >>> back now at 7:40 as the nation watches to see what happens with the fiscal cliff, there's another important piece of legislation that needs attention. if nothing is done about it, the cost of milk could go sky high. here's nbc's stephanie gosk. >> reporter: the dairy industry is calling it the milk cliff. just like tax rates, if congress doesn't approve a farm bill by january 1st, the price of milk could go up. way up. right now an average gallon costs $3.65. it could...
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fiscal cliff. >> does the minority leader and the senate, do they concur with the house of representatives. because it's eventually going to have to go through the house? >> absolutely. they would remaining in contact. just to make sure that the house would be agreeable to whatever the senate minority leader put out. democrats would have to be apprised of that as well but any agreement is probably going to need democrats in the house of representatives. the house is also working on a number of procedural maneuvers tonight to pave the way for quick votes over the next few days. they are not actively involved in the negotiations but if these two are to get a deal, vice president and senate minority leader the house could do a quick vote. >> two other things, first, if they don't do a deal, what can the average american, expect as far as tax increases? >> the average american could and not up and down the income sale. bush tax cuts created lower tax brackets for lower income americans, so up and down you would see specific tax increases not just on wealthier americans. >> and this doesn't hav
fiscal cliff. >> does the minority leader and the senate, do they concur with the house of representatives. because it's eventually going to have to go through the house? >> absolutely. they would remaining in contact. just to make sure that the house would be agreeable to whatever the senate minority leader put out. democrats would have to be apprised of that as well but any agreement is probably going to need democrats in the house of representatives. the house is also working on...
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gerri: president obama calling on congress to act to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for immediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. gerri: no kidding. we have been telling you that for weeks. democrats and republicans alike should rename their parties the procrastination party. that is because like a lot of college freshman, they left their work until the last minute. including the 800 billion-dollar fiscal cliff that we have been talking about. a hundred billion dollars it hasn't happened yet. it's notlike the deadline comes as a surprise to anybody at all, the least of all congress. they were the ones who extended the bush ta
gerri: president obama calling on congress to act to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for immediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every...
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any hope of getting a fiscal cliff deal done in time? we are back after a quick break. and i'm here to tell homeowners that are 62 and older about a great way to live a better retirement. it's called a reverse mortgage. [ male announcer ] call right now to receive your free dvd and booklet with no obligation. it answers questions like how a reverse mortgage works, how much you qualify for, the ways to receive your money, and more. plus, when you call now, you'll get this magnifier with l.e.d. light absolutely free. when you call the experts at one reverse mortgage today, you'll learn the benefits of a government-insured reverse mortgage. it will eliminate your monthly mortgage payments and give you tax-free cash from the equity in your home. and here's the best part -- you still own your home. take control of your retirement today. ♪ ♪ mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa'
any hope of getting a fiscal cliff deal done in time? we are back after a quick break. and i'm here to tell homeowners that are 62 and older about a great way to live a better retirement. it's called a reverse mortgage. [ male announcer ] call right now to receive your free dvd and booklet with no obligation. it answers questions like how a reverse mortgage works, how much you qualify for, the ways to receive your money, and more. plus, when you call now, you'll get this magnifier with l.e.d....
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cliff cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, where they can write get your lazy ass off vacation. >> willis likes that a lot more. >> i womdzer if there's enough room. >> if you're looking for love, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores is huge and that could be at the top of the list. they interviewed people across the u.s., and a newspaper discovered a low credit score is a deal breaker in search of love. so if you don't have your act together, take care of that and maybe you'll find love. >> can you imagine, hi, how are you? what is your credit score? >> 420. no, mine is a lot higher. >> we want to show you this next footage. anyone who has ever had their parking lot stolen is going to love this. this is in russia. we don't know why this is being towed. i've got to get me one of these, because i would just l
cliff cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, where they can write get your lazy ass off vacation. >> willis likes that a lot more. >> i womdzer if there's enough room. >> if you're looking for love, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores is huge and that could be...
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rich edson on capitol hill as we await the ball drop and the fiscal cliff to hit. rich: we have just gotten a back of the envelope, unofficial congressional budget office.
rich edson on capitol hill as we await the ball drop and the fiscal cliff to hit. rich: we have just gotten a back of the envelope, unofficial congressional budget office.
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cliff deal not done at all. stay with cnn all day for the developing news on the fiscal cliff, we have a big house vote perhaps as this bill gets to the floor. as we say good-bye to 2012 thank you to all the people behind the scenes who make "starting point" possible. happy new year, everyone. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ should all acquaintance be forgot
cliff deal not done at all. stay with cnn all day for the developing news on the fiscal cliff, we have a big house vote perhaps as this bill gets to the floor. as we say good-bye to 2012 thank you to all the people behind the scenes who make "starting point" possible. happy new year, everyone. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ should all acquaintance be forgot
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>> they're looking for a deal to be done that averts the worst effects of the fiscal cliff. always remembering that there will be some form of spending cuts and tax rises in the united states. but nothing like the grinding austerity that would be imposed on the u.s., and by definition and extension, the rest of the world, if the u.s. goes over the cliff. put it in context. this year the eurozone is in recession. next year recessions likely, growth just about possible. in that scenario for the largest trading partner to have a fiscal retrencherant, a slowdown of the magnitude of the cliff, ali, is pretty dramatic and drastic for everybody else watching. >> richard, there's a chance there could be a boomerang effect. the united states may grow, let's say 3% for argument's sake in 2013. that is going to be healthier than europe by a long shot, and we're seeing slowing in a lot of other major economies, including china, india, brazil. is there some sense that, just like the u.s. set off all of this nonsense back in 2008, a u.s. retrenchment, as you call it, a slowdown in growth
>> they're looking for a deal to be done that averts the worst effects of the fiscal cliff. always remembering that there will be some form of spending cuts and tax rises in the united states. but nothing like the grinding austerity that would be imposed on the u.s., and by definition and extension, the rest of the world, if the u.s. goes over the cliff. put it in context. this year the eurozone is in recession. next year recessions likely, growth just about possible. in that scenario for...
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. >>> some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900. this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane.
. >>> some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady...
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and the fiscal cliff deal, and are we going to get it done? we will talk to three top lawmakers and they are not in washington yet. and you have been hearing about the movie "django unchained" and the tarantino film has sparked controversy and also a feud between two top directors. and you will get some alex witt this weekend, because she talked to lester holt about what he got dragged into doing on his thanksgiving vacation. and also a lot of people ringing in the new year, and there are going to be issues with snow. s causing issues with people returning back home after the holidays. get ready. we'll have all that. so yes, melissa, good to see you this weekend. >> thanks, t.j. as t.j. might say, don't sleep on our legendary foot soldier who still inspires us all. by t? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart
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. >>> the clock is ticking toward the showdown on the fiscal cliff. one of the big questions is, what will happen next? editor at large for fortune magazine, he joins us from new york right now. you have followed most of the major economic stories for more than 20 years now. >> i'm not trying to make you seem old. sometimes i do, when i say how long i've been doing this. is this the first time you've seen something go this close to the wire? >> i think so, don. and what's really troubling about the debate is really missed by a lot of commentators, this is really a spending issue. we understand that even if taxes go up on individuals making over 200,000 and families making over 250, it only plugs about 8% of the deficit problem over the next ten years, we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it's going to be about a trillion through 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, the government is borrowing very short term to keep its costs down. the deficit is going to sw
. >>> the clock is ticking toward the showdown on the fiscal cliff. one of the big questions is, what will happen next? editor at large for fortune magazine, he joins us from new york right now. you have followed most of the major economic stories for more than 20 years now. >> i'm not trying to make you seem old. sometimes i do, when i say how long i've been doing this. is this the first time you've seen something go this close to the wire? >> i think so, don. and what's...
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. >>> the deadline to make a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff less than 48 hours away now. the senate and the house convening this afternoon for a rare sunday session with the hopes of reaching a vote possibly tonight. but can they really get a deal done? yesterday i spoke with sheila, the former chairman of the fdic and she's been through some tough negotiatiions before. this is what she had to say about the chances of a deal and what might be included. >> this should have been resolved long ago and i do think, actually, they are going to get a deal, but i think more along the lines down the road. at least at this point that we'll get meaningful deficit reduction, certainly not meaningful tax reform. i do think, though, perhaps a permanent extension of the lower tax rates for those making at least under $500,000. the payroll tax cut on the other hand will go away, i think, is highly unlikely and that is going to impact a lot of workers. i think they will make some decisions this weekend and a good chance that it will pass and become law. that is the good news. the bad news
. >>> the deadline to make a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff less than 48 hours away now. the senate and the house convening this afternoon for a rare sunday session with the hopes of reaching a vote possibly tonight. but can they really get a deal done? yesterday i spoke with sheila, the former chairman of the fdic and she's been through some tough negotiatiions before. this is what she had to say about the chances of a deal and what might be included. >> this should have been...
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but i actually still think we can gets it done. >> so what does the lack of a fiscal cliff deal with just days left in the 2012 mean for the markets? joining us from the cme, kevin ferry of cronis futures management. it's sad to watch all those clips back to back and realize where we are today. >> it's tough. mar's comments really ring perfectly at the end of that. that's for sure. >> and so just sort of set us up for the market day or maybe even the market week to the extent we have one left. how -- how do you think about the way the market may trade given the fact that we may have next to no deal likely i think before january 1 or at least in we do it's a baby. baby deal. >> right. right. well, here's what -- here's what we're observing so far, andrew. that the only significant move that we've really seen from the market has been the nighttime move when they walked away. and the rest of the session was actually quite quiet. so as far as the u.s. markets really putting pressure on the deal, we think it's been kind of void. so the real key, the trade that everyone now is listening, e
but i actually still think we can gets it done. >> so what does the lack of a fiscal cliff deal with just days left in the 2012 mean for the markets? joining us from the cme, kevin ferry of cronis futures management. it's sad to watch all those clips back to back and realize where we are today. >> it's tough. mar's comments really ring perfectly at the end of that. that's for sure. >> and so just sort of set us up for the market day or maybe even the market week to the extent...
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we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president is coming back, but they haven't gotten the 48 hour notice. they are very much out there in play. thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. when the senate returns tomorrow morning, there will be a new emphasis on members taking a larger role in the fiscal cliff negotiations that based off the current offer may only have a smaller deal. a member of the budget committee and outspoken voice on the left side of the aisle. thanks for joining me. good morning. >> mire pleasure. >> we were saying a lack of urgency in washington to deal with the fiscal cliff and being a member of congress especially a respe
we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president is coming back, but they haven't gotten the 48 hour...
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if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. learn more, lose more at letsfightfat.com. learn more, lose more are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explai
if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no,...
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. >> that's obviously jon talking about the fiscal cliff. but he also said yesterday that he thinks that the whole concept of putting any armed police officers at schools should be done at the local level, if at all. the big push at the nra is to make it a federal program and it should be funded by the federal government by congress. so it does not look like there's going to be a lot of support for that right now. i've been struck talking to republicans sources. republican sources at how turned off a lot of people were by wayne louisiana pair. more so with the tone and the way he delivered the message. i talked to one republican in congress who said that it seemed like it was a time war. he was very aggressive and he didn't seem to be sort of getting the sentiment of where we are now. >> so listening to lindsey graham saying there's not much we can do to stop someone who is not wired right and talking to the number of lawmakers that you have talked to, after the first of the year when dianne feinstein says she's going to introduce this bill,
. >> that's obviously jon talking about the fiscal cliff. but he also said yesterday that he thinks that the whole concept of putting any armed police officers at schools should be done at the local level, if at all. the big push at the nra is to make it a federal program and it should be funded by the federal government by congress. so it does not look like there's going to be a lot of support for that right now. i've been struck talking to republicans sources. republican sources at how...
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cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal this country's fate, as some developments yesterday. house members no longer on stand by. ready to come back sunday. to take a vote. when these tax cuts expire just about every worker is going to see their paycheck reduced. it's going to eliminate unemployment extensions and initiate spending cuts across the board. >> how will people see this in their paychecks and in their taxes? >> workers will feel it immediately in their paychecks. those paychecks will be reduced. those making 40,000, 50,000 are going to see 1700 less a year. it continues as the wages increase. so people are going to feel this in their pocketbooks. >> all right, danielle, thank you. >>> last night on the rachel maddow s
cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal this country's fate, as some developments yesterday. house members no longer on stand by. ready to come back sunday. to take a vote. when these tax cuts expire just about every worker is...
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senator john mccain told me just a little while ago even if a fiscal cliff deal is done, the battle between the white house and congressional republicans is far from over. >> i think there's going to be a whole new field of battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> all right. let's dig a little bit deeper with ryan lizza. he's washington correspondent for the new yorker magazine. also ali velshi our chief correspondent is joining us. deal or no deal? >> looks like from what dana is reporting, that a deal is in sight. republicans are saying they're going to have a vote tonight. looks like a deal is done. >> with the senate. >> we don't know what the house will do. and the last time john boehner tried to put something on the floor, his caucus rebelled. he'd have to let the house vote its will. >> but you agree if the president of the united states supports it, most of the house democrats will support it. so you don't need a majority of the republicans, you need a few republicans to get to that magic number of 218. >> exactly. obama and pelosi seem to have a firm grasp on the house democra
senator john mccain told me just a little while ago even if a fiscal cliff deal is done, the battle between the white house and congressional republicans is far from over. >> i think there's going to be a whole new field of battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> all right. let's dig a little bit deeper with ryan lizza. he's washington correspondent for the new yorker magazine. also ali velshi our chief correspondent is joining us. deal or no deal? >> looks like from...
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this fiscal cliff san important element in economic recovery. i hope we can get it done. >> i think everybody out there agrees that they hope you get this done, a lot of frustration out there as you can imagine, i'm sure you hear it as well. thank you. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. back to you. >> dana bash, as always, appreciate that insight. >>> if the government does go over the fiscal cliff, you know what the rest of the world is going to feel it as well. we will tell you how and where, coming up. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. >>> all day i we have been following developments on the fiscal cliff talks. right now, senate leaders at an impasse over tax hikes and they are running out of time n just two days, those massive tax hikes and spending cuts will kick n so, let's go now to jessica yellin in washington. jessica has bee
this fiscal cliff san important element in economic recovery. i hope we can get it done. >> i think everybody out there agrees that they hope you get this done, a lot of frustration out there as you can imagine, i'm sure you hear it as well. thank you. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. back to you. >> dana bash, as always, appreciate that insight. >>> if the government does go over the fiscal cliff, you know what the rest of the world is going to feel it as well....
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person when it comes to not getting anything done. senate majority leader harry reid had this to say on the senate floor yesterday. >> months and months of talks between the president and boehner, both times boehner could not deliver because they refuse because of grover norquist to allow any tax revenues whatsoever. they cannot cross over the threshold that has been built by grover norquist. >> grover norquist joins us now exclusively here on cnbc. grover, we just heard you are the target of those comments, but did harry reid get it wrong, because i thought that your organization actually gave its blessing to boehner's plan "b." >> reid has it wrong on a number of levels. the first, of course, is that the pledge that many congressmen and senators have made to oppose tax increases is made to the people of their state, not to me. in fact, harry reid now has the republican senator joining him from nevada who won because he made that commitment. he took the pledge, and the democrat that harry reid supported attacked him for taking the pl
person when it comes to not getting anything done. senate majority leader harry reid had this to say on the senate floor yesterday. >> months and months of talks between the president and boehner, both times boehner could not deliver because they refuse because of grover norquist to allow any tax revenues whatsoever. they cannot cross over the threshold that has been built by grover norquist. >> grover norquist joins us now exclusively here on cnbc. grover, we just heard you are the...
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they have until the first to get that done or milk prices go up and with the fiscal cliff, massive tax increases and spending cuts. that's the latest here at the white house, back to you. >> thank you, sherri. >>> we've been getting responses to the cliff talks on our facebook page. that's where we asked you, what do you think about congress and the white house not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it's possible that a compromise will be reached before the deadline? tammy simpson writes -- peggy fleming says -- >> a lot of people fired up obviously over this. >>> traffic is back to normal on the springfield interchange, even while virginia state police continue to investigate a deadly accident there. this happened around 7:00 last night when a tractor-trailer stopped in traffic, was rear- ended by a pickup truck. three people inside the pickup truck died at the scene. the driver of the tractor- trailer was not hurt. >>> d.c. police are offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest in the shooting death of a capitol hill man. jason emma was shot multipl
they have until the first to get that done or milk prices go up and with the fiscal cliff, massive tax increases and spending cuts. that's the latest here at the white house, back to you. >> thank you, sherri. >>> we've been getting responses to the cliff talks on our facebook page. that's where we asked you, what do you think about congress and the white house not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it's possible that a compromise will be reached before the...
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donald, they have no one about, for instance, this fiscal cliff, they have known about it for 18 months. they have done nothing for 18 months. >> they have really known about it for ten years, when you think about it. they have known about it for ten years. but that is the way government is working. >> well, my point is no politician has been tied up in the base men of the capital or white house and said don't do this. they have had plenty of tune. you talk about the big plan. have you seen any appetite for any of these members of congress or the president or anybody else to really have a big plan that actually fixes the problem? >> no, because right now the president doesn't have a big downside but in a month and a half from now he has a huge downside and that comes due with the debt ceiling. and frankly, you know, when you say they have no one about this for a year and a half, they have known about it for ten years because it was always meant to be. this was going to explode and people were going to negotiate something before it explodes. but i think it's highly overrated. it's going
donald, they have no one about, for instance, this fiscal cliff, they have known about it for 18 months. they have done nothing for 18 months. >> they have really known about it for ten years, when you think about it. they have known about it for ten years. but that is the way government is working. >> well, my point is no politician has been tied up in the base men of the capital or white house and said don't do this. they have had plenty of tune. you talk about the big plan. have...
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cliff, it would be tough for the markets. marks are telling us they think there's been a momentary judgment call, they've done the right thing and the markets think something's going to get done here. so a solution is priced into the market here. if you don't get a solution, it's going to be a problem. maybe not the first day but certainly a problem. i've talked to congressmen, you have, too, they have 2008 and t.a.r.p. fresh in their memory. remember when they didn't pass the bank bailout? >> sure. >> wall street said, that's not going to work and the stock market went down 700 points. they have that fresh in their memory. they don't want -- they don't want to do anything like that. so they're being very careful here, i think. >> christine, tell us about some of the things that were, at least on the senate side, tax goodies, things saved, some of the things that we didn't lose because of the agreement on the senate side. >> it's interesting, when you look at, for example, write-off for teachers for supplies they get for the
cliff, it would be tough for the markets. marks are telling us they think there's been a momentary judgment call, they've done the right thing and the markets think something's going to get done here. so a solution is priced into the market here. if you don't get a solution, it's going to be a problem. maybe not the first day but certainly a problem. i've talked to congressmen, you have, too, they have 2008 and t.a.r.p. fresh in their memory. remember when they didn't pass the bank bailout?...
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fiscal cliff? at the top of our short list, there's still time to take advantage of the gift tax. right now there's a $5 million exemption and the tax rate is 35%. at midnight on new year's eve, that exemption drops to just $1 million and the tax rate goes to 55%. the capital gains tax rate, of course, is expected to increase from 20 to 30%. there's brand-new 3.9% medicare tax on high wage earners and a tax for wealthy donations. primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth preservation strategies. that same survey found high net worth persons, those with $5 million or more in assets, obviously much more proactive in anticipating the tax consequen
fiscal cliff? at the top of our short list, there's still time to take advantage of the gift tax. right now there's a $5 million exemption and the tax rate is 35%. at midnight on new year's eve, that exemption drops to just $1 million and the tax rate goes to 55%. the capital gains tax rate, of course, is expected to increase from 20 to 30%. there's brand-new 3.9% medicare tax on high wage earners and a tax for wealthy donations. primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in...
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but could failure to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff spark some serious safe haven buying? that's the question. joining us now to talk gold is president and ceo of global holdings. so that is the question. what's the answer? >> okay. well, as you said, gold has been range-bound for a little over a year now. and as far as the fiscal cliff, we're not coming close to a deal, maybe going over the cliff, you're seeing gold pulling back a little bit. so it's actually -- that is not an impetus right now to drive gold higher. now, our feelings are that we're not really going to go over the fiscal cliff in the true sense. we might in a temporary for a very brief period of time. but, once we come out of that, and the actual deal we start looking at what the deal is, the details, we're going to probably see there's no real significant cut in spending, and that the ongoing spending, and creation of additional debt is going to continue unabated, and that will be a real driver for gold. >> okay, so my second bet, though, beyond that we might be having this conversation in the end of janu
but could failure to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff spark some serious safe haven buying? that's the question. joining us now to talk gold is president and ceo of global holdings. so that is the question. what's the answer? >> okay. well, as you said, gold has been range-bound for a little over a year now. and as far as the fiscal cliff, we're not coming close to a deal, maybe going over the cliff, you're seeing gold pulling back a little bit. so it's actually -- that is not an...
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cliff if we had not taken action. it means an awful lot in illinois. we have literally tens of thousands in my own state that face the same basic problem. these are people who have been out of work for a long time. some are in school. some are taking courses for retraining. all are trying to keep their family together, not lose their home while their unemployed. -- they are unemployed. this was the president's second highest priority and it was included in this package. review ask the congressional budget office where to spend $1 to help the economy, they will be clear that it is unemployment benefits. the dollar you spend on unemployment benefits go back into the economy. they are spending it on goods and services to get by, utility bills, rent, mortgage payments, food, clothing, the basics of life. each dollar has a multiplier effect. it is $1.60 ultimately into the economy. it is not only the humane and right thing to do for a struggling economy, but a good thing for boosting economic growth. one of the real disapp
cliff if we had not taken action. it means an awful lot in illinois. we have literally tens of thousands in my own state that face the same basic problem. these are people who have been out of work for a long time. some are in school. some are taking courses for retraining. all are trying to keep their family together, not lose their home while their unemployed. -- they are unemployed. this was the president's second highest priority and it was included in this package. review ask the...
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the house has passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff, senate democrats have not. stuart: senator harry reid blaming the republicans and republican response as we have done our part, you have got to do something first. political go at it. the wall street journal is reporting president obama called congressional leaders today to discuss the fiscal cliff and what we have got is a political attack from senator harry reid, a defensive move from the republicans, they're going at it and the dow is down 91 points. >> mel brooks at the governor says we have to save our phony baloney jobs. they are not. stuart: we have new numbers just out showing the number of workers on disability, social security disability, has hit a record high, 827,725 as of dec.. joining us is the author of hollywood hypocrites'. we have got social security, record number of people on disability, record deficit for social security, $47 billion a year, almost $1 billion a week flowing out more than coming in and young people, you voted for no change to entitlement, keep on paying for old people. what
the house has passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff, senate democrats have not. stuart: senator harry reid blaming the republicans and republican response as we have done our part, you have got to do something first. political go at it. the wall street journal is reporting president obama called congressional leaders today to discuss the fiscal cliff and what we have got is a political attack from senator harry reid, a defensive move from the republicans, they're going at it and...
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so we'll be on fiscal cliff watch on fast money. hopefully we'll have a deal to talk about. it's also about 2013 trades. predictions on the commodity front. top trade in the internet space. all of our traders will be prepared to give their top trades, as well. and of course we have broadcasting tonight in times square, heart of the biggest party in the universe. >> good luck getting home. >> really. >> have a great new year. >> thank you. you, too. >> we'll see you in 2013. here's what you missed if you're just tuning in. >>> welcome to hour three of "squawk on the street." here's what's happening so far. >> the real question is whether or not the president will weigh in and push the democrats in the senate to move forward with a bill today. if that happens, then i think that we can solve this current challenge. >> we ought to be concentrating on how to get government out of the way. get them off the back of small and medium sized businesses, even large corporations. let our economy grow. >> the economy is an incredible ability to s
so we'll be on fiscal cliff watch on fast money. hopefully we'll have a deal to talk about. it's also about 2013 trades. predictions on the commodity front. top trade in the internet space. all of our traders will be prepared to give their top trades, as well. and of course we have broadcasting tonight in times square, heart of the biggest party in the universe. >> good luck getting home. >> really. >> have a great new year. >> thank you. you, too. >> we'll see you...
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they will voluntarily where "come together" to urge politicians to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff before the end of the year. and i wasn't very surprised because howard schultz has been very outspoken. we sat down earlier this month to talk about the fiscal cliff and the risks to u.s. businesses, to the world economy and to the average u.s. citizen if we don't have a deal, if we don't get it done. i want you to take a listen to what he fold me. >> the real difference today versus perhaps any other time in history is that this single issue has a seismic effect on the rest of the world, that we have never been as connected and the domino effect of a bad outcome here will have significant negative consequences domestically and around the world. not the least of which will be the level -- fracturing of confidence in the united states of america. >> seismic and significant. very powerful words. how could this play out for americans if we don't have a deal? what will that feel like to them, howard? >> i think there will be tremendous personal pressure on people who are going to see thei
they will voluntarily where "come together" to urge politicians to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff before the end of the year. and i wasn't very surprised because howard schultz has been very outspoken. we sat down earlier this month to talk about the fiscal cliff and the risks to u.s. businesses, to the world economy and to the average u.s. citizen if we don't have a deal, if we don't get it done. i want you to take a listen to what he fold me. >> the real difference today...
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to come together and get this fiscal cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, if there is's enough space to write "get your lazy ass off vacation and get this done." [ laughter ] >> willis likes that a lot more. i can hear it in the background. >> i wonder if there's enough room. >> no, i don't know about that. >>> okay, ladies and gents, if you're looking for love, oh, boy, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ so hot right now that our designer sun glasses be fogging ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores are huge and that could be at the top of the list. maybe after looks and personality is credit scores. they interviewed people across the u.s., all under the age of 40, and the newspaper discovered that a low credit score is a deal-breaker when in search of love right now in the economy. so if you don't have your act together, take care of that and maybe you'll find love. >>
to come together and get this fiscal cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, if there is's enough space to write "get your lazy ass off vacation and get this done." [ laughter ] >> willis likes that a lot more. i can hear it in the background. >> i wonder if there's enough room. >> no, i don't know about that. >>> okay, ladies and gents, if you're looking for love, oh, boy, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪...
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cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. monday, december 24th. christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >> and our "starting point," a u.s. contractor in kabul gunned down and killed this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters. the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks that are hitting morale and eroding trust in allies there. our pentagon correspond respondent barbara starr up early for us working her sources. joins us live from washington with more. >> good morning, alina. in the last few minutes, our nato sources are c
cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in...
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if nothing is done to avert the fiscal cliff. if you make $104,000, doing pretty well, you see your taxes go up $6200. if you make $400,000 a year, you see taxes go up over $9,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps. just merely spreading the message america is watching and waiting for congress to act to find a way to reason together, that's an important act, and everyone doing their part can do, i say good on him. we need to send this message to washington and make sure it isn't settled. we'll go deeper into this tonight at 7:00 as well. this is urnlggent. the clock is ticking, s
if nothing is done to avert the fiscal cliff. if you make $104,000, doing pretty well, you see your taxes go up $6200. if you make $400,000 a year, you see taxes go up over $9,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks...
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despite the fiscal cliff worries. and you got to see it get handled. if you saw the house not pass this, or you all of a sudden saw some controversy with amendments in the like and two competing versions of this bill and this drags on, i think you could see the stock market take a tumble and that's something members of congress have told us, they like to avoid that. they rep t.a.r.p. and the bank bailout and the stock market didn't like it when they didn't pass the bank bailout in first place, that's a fresh memory for them. >> christine romans, thank you for keeping an eye on all of this. so much to keep an eye on, thanks. >>> as we wait for republicans to speak, the vice president playing a huge role in getting this deal done. but does joe biden have the pull to actually get it through the house. >>> plus, i'll speak live with the attorney for one of the very first pot clubs in colorado. just opened after voters approved a new marijuana law. you can do two things at the same time. you can watch videos and text. or you could watch the earnings report
despite the fiscal cliff worries. and you got to see it get handled. if you saw the house not pass this, or you all of a sudden saw some controversy with amendments in the like and two competing versions of this bill and this drags on, i think you could see the stock market take a tumble and that's something members of congress have told us, they like to avoid that. they rep t.a.r.p. and the bank bailout and the stock market didn't like it when they didn't pass the bank bailout in first place,...
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what are your thoughts about the fiscal cliff? caller: it is a waste of time. they need to get into session and vote. start getting something done. let's go. they're just piddling around too long. they do not have anything settle debt. i mean, you know. host: how would you like to see the boat go? guest: at this point it does not matter. host: here come the democrats live coverage on c-span. >> are you ready? we just finished a standing room only three-hour long caucus meeting in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership but also gave us a very thoughtful and detailed explanation of what has gone on and how it was that he and the president, working with democratic and republican leaders were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to the vice president for being so gracious and, quite honestly, so frank in explaining the as much as he could about what has transpired over the last several weeks. we are now waiting to hear from our republican colleagues whether or not they want to do what the senate did in a v
what are your thoughts about the fiscal cliff? caller: it is a waste of time. they need to get into session and vote. start getting something done. let's go. they're just piddling around too long. they do not have anything settle debt. i mean, you know. host: how would you like to see the boat go? guest: at this point it does not matter. host: here come the democrats live coverage on c-span. >> are you ready? we just finished a standing room only three-hour long caucus meeting in which...
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more problematically in this instance with the fiscal cliff, the consumer discretionaries. the restaurant stocks have done well. the retailers have done well. they could easily re-rate, in other words, correct, partly because consumers could rein in, and we could be seeing that now, we may not, or partly because wall street fears they would rein in. can you see consumer discretion as being vulnerable at this position now? >> consumer discretionary has been the best performing sector since the market bottomed in 2009. if there is a sector that could be in line for a re-writing, as you say, that's probably it. i think the most prudent way to look at the market today is to focus on sectors that have good dividend yields, good valuation and potential for revenue growth. health care and technology both fit that particular area. and i think those are the areas that, from a prudent perspective, might be the best place to make your bets for 2013. >> charles, where would you begin the new year? i know you're looking at value tech names, leapfrogging off of what david just said. you
more problematically in this instance with the fiscal cliff, the consumer discretionaries. the restaurant stocks have done well. the retailers have done well. they could easily re-rate, in other words, correct, partly because consumers could rein in, and we could be seeing that now, we may not, or partly because wall street fears they would rein in. can you see consumer discretion as being vulnerable at this position now? >> consumer discretionary has been the best performing sector since...
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. >> the bill as amended is pass zbld the senate overwhelmingly passed a bill to avert the fiscal cliff. >> this temporary agreement keeps income tax rates steady for most americans, limiting tax hikes to households making more than $450,000. >> i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> president obama encouraged the house to pass it right away. >> if there's even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >>> it has not been a great start to the new year for hillary clinton. >> she's undergoing treatment for a blood clot in the head between the brain and the skull. >> she didn't have a stroke. she didn't have a seizure. the prognosis is excellent. >>> an estimated 1 million people in times square. >> revelers welcomed in the new year with celebrations around the world. around 100,000 people in hong kong. fireworks display over the skies of london. >> all that. >> i'm single, so let's get it on. >> there are so many people making out it's sloppy. >> who to you think would win in a fistfight. you or -- >> and all th
. >> the bill as amended is pass zbld the senate overwhelmingly passed a bill to avert the fiscal cliff. >> this temporary agreement keeps income tax rates steady for most americans, limiting tax hikes to households making more than $450,000. >> i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> president obama encouraged the house to pass it right away. >> if there's even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that...
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i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of getting republican votes today? >> i don't think that will get through the house . the house was elected to protect the united states of additional obama care spipe types of spending . from the perspective it is it a char aid. he wants to raise tax for people with over $200,000 . patti mu
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how is oil dependent on fiscal cliff deal or no deal? >> well, i think that's the biggest short-term burden that crude oil and most of the commodities have right now. the biggest factor is if no deal is done by year end, the possibility of the u.s. slipping into a recession in the first half, greatly increases significantly. if that does that, you can see crude oil prices back off to that short-term support right around 86. i think overhead we're met with about a 91 resistance. the volume and also the participants in the market are going to be significantly less as a result of these fiscal cliff worries. >> we're going to sort of trend right around here -- it doesn't look like we're going to get a deal before year end of any great significance. that being said, we may get one last year. do we trade in line right here? >> so we're going to trade probably 91 on the upside, 86 on the low side. i think once a deal is done, you're going to see a reemergence of a risk-on rally. i think that's where crude oil breaks out to the upside. we start
how is oil dependent on fiscal cliff deal or no deal? >> well, i think that's the biggest short-term burden that crude oil and most of the commodities have right now. the biggest factor is if no deal is done by year end, the possibility of the u.s. slipping into a recession in the first half, greatly increases significantly. if that does that, you can see crude oil prices back off to that short-term support right around 86. i think overhead we're met with about a 91 resistance. the volume...
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>> set the fiscal cliff aside for one moment. you've done extensive research on recovery from recessions. where are we in the current recovery? what in your estimation does 2013 look like from an economic standpoint. >> fairly normal from world war ii financial crisis, housing recovers on cue five or six years later. the good news is that there's stable underlying growth. the bad news is you don't get the zoom you got out of it during the depression. >> we're in year five of a seven year process. >> more than seven years. >> last time you were here you said we were half way through regardless of who wins in 2012. the next four years would not look much better than the past four years. >> we're going to have, i don't know if not very much better than the past four but we're not going to have fantastic growth. unemployment will take many more years to feel normal, so we have many years left in the recovery but hopefully in two or three years we feel like we're moving there and not at the starting point. >> let's talk about the glob
>> set the fiscal cliff aside for one moment. you've done extensive research on recovery from recessions. where are we in the current recovery? what in your estimation does 2013 look like from an economic standpoint. >> fairly normal from world war ii financial crisis, housing recovers on cue five or six years later. the good news is that there's stable underlying growth. the bad news is you don't get the zoom you got out of it during the depression. >> we're in year five of a...
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to avert this so-called fiscal cliff. ed, good to see you. merry christmas to you. >> reporter: merry christmas, kelly. economists have warned that this could lead to another recession if in fact these massive spending cuts and tax hikes kick in at the same time right at the beginning of the new year. what they're trying to do to avert that is scaled back plan that the president suggested late last week that would basically deal with some of the emergency pests of this. extended unemployment benefits for two million people about to be kicked off their benefits a week after christmas the president also wants to extend tax cuts for the middle class. you heard house speaker john boehner say the problem there that will raise tax rates for some. he thinks that will hurt the economy, although over the weekend in sort of a holiday message the speaker suggested maybe they can come together after the holiday. >> of course hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll continue to wo
to avert this so-called fiscal cliff. ed, good to see you. merry christmas to you. >> reporter: merry christmas, kelly. economists have warned that this could lead to another recession if in fact these massive spending cuts and tax hikes kick in at the same time right at the beginning of the new year. what they're trying to do to avert that is scaled back plan that the president suggested late last week that would basically deal with some of the emergency pests of this. extended...
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fiscal cliff is about being afraid, i think. >> let's do the numbers. >> 350,000 on initial jobless claims. that is definitely less than we were looking for. it's a dozen less than the revised number you're looking at last week. 3.206 million on continuing claims. and just to put a face on it, 350,000. when was the last time we had 350,000? well, let's see, we had 344,000 on pearl harbor day. this is probably a level that we should pay attention to. it's like logically important, that it's going to give us any clues as to how many jobs we're going to create on any first friday. i think that information line is broken. let's get back to that other conversation now. let's go with it. you know, the issue with t.a.r.p. was, yes, there were things that were freezing up. that responsibility adults had to come and do something, and i remember not agreeing with maria bartiromo at the time because everybody was disappointed they didn't hurry up to write a check for seven eighths of a trillion dollars without any thought. so i thought that was the negative issue here. i'm not wearing my button today
fiscal cliff is about being afraid, i think. >> let's do the numbers. >> 350,000 on initial jobless claims. that is definitely less than we were looking for. it's a dozen less than the revised number you're looking at last week. 3.206 million on continuing claims. and just to put a face on it, 350,000. when was the last time we had 350,000? well, let's see, we had 344,000 on pearl harbor day. this is probably a level that we should pay attention to. it's like logically important,...